Claim Check · Debt
“Interest on the national debt now costs more than the entire defense budget.”
Verdict: TrueCBO’s final tally for fiscal year 2025 puts net interest at $970 billion versus $859 billion in national defense outlays. Interest first crossed above defense in FY2024 and the gap widened in FY2025.
The Congressional Budget Office’s Monthly Budget Review for FY2025 records net outlays for interest of $970 billion, against national defense outlays of $859 billion — a gap of roughly $111 billion in interest’s favor. Net interest is now the federal government’s third-largest expense, behind only Social Security and Medicare, and CBO projects it to pass $1 trillion in FY2026. The claim holds under CBO’s standard budget-function definitions.
Sources
- Monthly Budget Review: Summary for Fiscal Year 2025 — Congressional Budget Office
- Trillion-Dollar Interest Payments Are the New Norm — Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget
- Interest Costs on the National Debt (monthly tracker) — Peter G. Peterson Foundation
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